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Discussion in 'Bugs & Feedback' started by Toukans , Apr 22, 2014.

  1. Taki

    Taki I am a underaged
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    That's exactly why i would only show media topics. But you are right that it shouldn't be only media topics, i would also add mbr and maybe the animating needs. I just think it can be annoying when your hard work gets pushed out by a simple introduction or a meaningless off topic thread.

    The best possible would be a filter.
     
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  2. Minh

    Minh Old-School 2010 Maple Animator

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    If we brought back user groups for the use of factions! Since there was like a miniforum for usergroups to post in, to keep organized with faction projects etc. That would be awesome, I'd find great use out of that. :^)
     
  3. LeoV

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    what's wrong with using skype for that
     
  4. Minh

    Minh Old-School 2010 Maple Animator

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    I mean Skype works but like, the chat goes really far up as time goes on, and I keep getting the same questions over and over about this collab we're working on, because some people miss the question or they live in a separate time zone. It would be easier.
     
  5. LeoV

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    put a faq in the group title or something. i can see why you'd want user groups for this but it seems overkill. that and i doubt they'd be used much - most forums i've been to, they just get abandoned easily in favor of skype.

    if it's not too hard to implement, then it's possible it will get added. otherwise, with the low demand for such a feature, if it's hard to get working, then it's not really all that interesting to add. just spitballin' tho
     
  6. Minh

    Minh Old-School 2010 Maple Animator

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    Yeah it was the old old old forums a few years back, not anymore. :(
     
  7. Aidan

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    Maybe if there was a large demand for it, but otherwise it would just take up space that wouldn't warrant the amount of users using it.
     
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  8. Blacksmith

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    I would spring for it, because it would be a matter of nice convenience and staying on the topic of what is needed to be discussed while with skype groups you can stray from the matter at hand very easily, plus it can be used as proof if a faction is still alive or dead, and i guess that usergroup section would be a nice way to spark up some hope for factions being lively. only 2 factions im seeing are actually busy. not as sure for others.

    maybe the return of the monthly reports on those, hmm?
     
  9. DJTiki

    DJTiki Yes

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    I would definitely add the ability to edit Thread titles. It just seems like an inconvenience when you make a thread title and accidently misspell something (or in my case, a part of my username is censored, then everything falls apart and you have to make a new one. It would also add rather unnecessary post counts to users who frequently mess up.
     
  10. Aidan

    Aidan The Spires
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    You should now be able to edit your own thread titles.

    Also, that censor has been removed.
     
  11. NarwhaI

    NarwhaI "The Jedi of The Sea"

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    We have a resources section here right? but we don't have a flash extensions/tools thread there! so that should be made to make our life much easier
     
  12. Aidan

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    We do, it's a sticky thread called “flash stuff” courtesy of our @LeoV
     
  13. NarwhaI

    NarwhaI "The Jedi of The Sea"

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    Leos thread is more about scripts,im taking about tools and stuff like that
     
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    More tutorial videos on adobe animate, yeah spritefan tells you how but those videos can only do so much and with a person with no experience of any programs. So a remake on those would be nice. Audio downloads would be cool as well. But in all honesty about tutorials new people come and go because the guidance is vague or its beyond understanding (I'm slow and stupid).
     
  15. lieow123

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    Kind of stupid to just rely on one source for tutorial.. There are plenty on youtube from many different people with their varied ways of teaching.. Good and bad ones you can find. Just keep finding and watching 'good animations', then check if they have tutorials you can follow. If not, just think of ways you could follow the animator's style. Doesn't need to be exact just to your liking..
    Maybe you'd want to check AlanBecker's animation tutorial. It's a lot more detailed and elaborate teaching.
    If I remember correctly, spritefan said he was a self made animator so maybe that's why. Go and learn and understand the tools of Flash if you want to understand how to make do all those fancy things.
    That's life, you have to find and learn a lot of things yourself if u want to 'be good'.
    Keep thinking that way, and you'll stay slow and stupid. I hope you can quit that mindset.

    Also animating is a technical skill, so only when you start practicing and make stupid mistakes, you'll understand the wrong ways of doing things, and how you'd rather like to do it. Same for every other skills.
     
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  16. Tra-La-Tracey

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    As harsh as Lieow's words were, there is truth in them! Animating is something you learn as you go and even if you learn how to do something from a tutorial, it'll still take some time to get used to, even if it's as simple as using a shortcut key!
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    There are so many aspects to animating/Maple animations to make one or even ten tutorials on. In the meantime, it's best to learn from what Lieow linked or something like Lynda.com (but for Adobe Animate). And though I would see a series of tutorials for Maple animations as AN AWESOME THING, I don't see it as something that needs to be improved/changed in the forums specifically. I think, when it comes to learning/teaching, not all of the responsibility falls on just the staff.

    All that being said, I super encourage everyone (yes, even you reading this!) to make your own tutorials! If you're confident on something, take the initiative to impart your wisdom and technique if you got the extra time! They don't have to be beautiful and fancy and BIG topics, just anything that someone would find useful! THERE IS LITERALLY A STICKIED TUTORIAL ON HOW TO NOT DOUBLE POST IN THE FORUMS LOL. For example, Geremy asked the MM Discord on a tutorial about jumps in Maple animations. I think "jumps" would be a VERY useful tutorial that can be made by anyone in MM who can sufficiently do one. A few years back, I made a weird tutorial on the "bounce effect in SV" and surprisingly, I got a lot of good feedback and a lot of people found it useful! So don't be afraid to just make something on your own.

    BUT SPEAKING OF TUTORIALS,
    One change I would like to see is cleaning up some of the pointless threads, predominantly in the Tutorial section (ie. putting them into the Obsolete Tutorials section). Within the first two pages of this section, I've found at least three tutorials that have deleted videos and expired image links from years back. Unless we can get those back, I kind of see these as pointless? To have these on the first few pages of the forums makes it look like we're super outdated and don't actively manage our resources.
     
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  17. DJTiki

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    Decided to write a long list of quality of life improvements the forums could have. I am also in the process of writing a large Google Document in what I feel should be changed about the forum structure, but don't want to shove it forward all of once. Now, MapleMation utilizes the XenForo software for its operations. Given that the trademark is capped at its 2016 version, I only assume it is using the first versions of XenForo 2.0 (though I could be wrong, please someone correct me if I am). Therefore, most of my small quality of life improvement suggestions are tacked by links to corresponding plug-ins and add-ons supporting the 2.0 version. Please take a look:

    Prefixes (https://xenforo.com/help/thread-prefixes/)
    -This is already built into Xenforo. With the following, threads can be organized using a set of prefixes which will appear before the title of every thread. Members whom post thread topics will be tasked with pairing their title with an appropriate category to properly organize the threads which can be quick scrolled through. (https://xenforo.com/community/threads/filter-threads-by-prefix-menu.137270/) < This can make filtering threads through categories even easier. And you can change the prefixes based on each separate subforum. What can this be used for?
    * Discerning between a Flash, After Effects, Sony Vegas, Drawn, and Non-Maple animation/tutorial/resources/collaborations/help
    * Easier to make archives of existing threads to find outdated threads
    * Differentiating between small scaled and large scaled projects/series /videos
    * Find the right threads faster


    Ability to Edit Your Own Page Style (https://foro.agency/resources/foro-agency-profile-customization-profile-banner-custom-tab.5/)
    -New code that showed up recently. Pardon the different language but its application is in English. Allows the user to customize their profile page with a neat banner and some smaller stuff. A little bit on the buggy side but it does indeed work from the testimony. Since you can tie this to user permission, perhaps give this to people with a certain post limit/something. (I have my own ideas but it's up to you)

    Permanently Delete Old Threads
    -Please. In conjunction, the newer generation should be the ones hosting the Sticky threads as many of the current threads host a plethora of errors which comes from being outdated. (The Stickied Thread on the Introduction section still references the 100 post limit for Resources as it was detailed five years ago) Make way for the newer members... the ones who have organized anyhow, to be the ones hosting the large forum threads.

    Robust Rules and Infraction System by a Non-Partisan Moderation Team.
    -Changing the rules to reflect the new times has been long overdue. There also hasn't been an ironclad infraction system for what constitutes removal from the forums and deletion of posts. There also needs to be those who will not hesitate to punish anyone on the forum despite status or stature.

    Do Not Allow Images From Tinypic
    -TinyPic is horrible. No one should use it. After a certain amount of time, they tend to redirect and reuse image links. There are a couple of past instances in unrelated forums where the Tinypic redirected to porn. It's not good.

    Adding YouTube to Profile Pages (https://xenforo.com/community/resources/xenconcept-youtube-video-profile.5733/)
    -As much as YouTube is a large part of everyone on the forums, being able to add their channel to the page seems like a no-brainer. I would test this with the profile editing feature to see if it can both co-exist without bugging out.

    Country Flags (https://xenforo.com/community/threads/country-flags-by-ip-address.141473/)
    -Something neat. With a toggle option, you can have tiny Country Flags attached to their name depending on their IP address. The option can be toggled off for those who do not like it. Given how MM attracts a worldwide membership, a small addition to detail.

    Delete Your Own Account (https://xenforo.com/community/resources/self-account-deletion.5570/)
    -It can schedule the deletion of your account. Self-explanatory.

    Advanced Forms (https://xenforo.com/community/resources/advanced-forms.5632/)
    -Integrate forms which can be used for MM applications for collaborations, mod, and team applications. Even use it for surveying and forums.

    -This adds a Group tab to the top of the forum navigation bar. It's a pipeline to a LARGE selection of groups. It gives them a calendar, a private group chat, a private user permission that can be used to small subforums, subforum/group moderation tools, can have invite-only groups, photo album, and even a Google Map BBC. WHY ISN'T THIS USED FOR FACTIONS. I do understand that there needs to be participation, but this would be a very nifty tool for factions to have had. THE CODE IS FREEEEE! Please.

    Okay, I believe that is all that I have right now. I have more ideas to come, please contact me for questions. Again, clarification for the version of XenForo is important. But these should all be feasible. Thank you for taking the time. I have more ideas for the forums to come.

    :blushplz:
     
  18. SuperKimxD

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    I'm going to reply to some of the points brought up in @DJTiki's post, as well as reiterate which ones were addressed and solved or shot down via Discord, at least so that they don't get lost in the Discord chat, never to be seen again.

    Prefixes: It was discussed on Discord that we have a GIF prefix, but we could also use an MBR one and maybe a Practice one. Maybe even a Sony Vegas one, but that one really might not be necessary.

    Ability to edit your own page style: I'd probably use this to some extent, but one mentioned concern is that perhaps not many other people would. Another concern is that it may be too buggy.

    Permanently delete old threads: Permanent deletion of old threads is unnecessary. They can be moved to 'obsolete' subforums if needed, but there's no need to delete them. I do agree with you that pinned threads should be managed by active members, but there's currently no method of seeking out anyone who wishes to manage them. I just volunteered to moderate the selfies thread without being prompted and now I do. That opportunity should also be available to other people, so do feel free to inquire if you think you're able to manage a stickied thread.

    Robust Rules and Infraction System by a Non-Partisan Moderation Team: I've seen this biased rule enforcement as a large problem with only one member in the past year or so, and that person isn't even around anymore. Clear guidelines for strikes, punishments, and/or other rule enforcement information would probably be a good idea. As mentioned in the Discord, you're not specifying what kind of "robust rules" you'd like to be added. Lastly, it's not currently appropriate to have staff that "will not hesitate to punish anyone." This community is far from perfect and just about everyone is disrespectful to some extent at some time or another. If we were to enforce rules in such a hardcore manner, the forums population would drop drastically.

    Do Not Allow Images From Tinypic: As LeoV said on Discord, this doesn't need enforcement. I personally enforce this on the selfies thread, but throughout the forums it's up to the poster's discretion. Even on said thread, people can use TinyPic, their images just won't be added to the list forever.

    Adding YouTube to profile pages: Isn't this enough?
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    Lastly, a suggestion of my own, or a point to bring to the table. For those who haven't seen it, this post is a wonderful guide for giving CnC, and I think it will help out if people follow it a bit more.