[MBR] Miles vs Wolferian

My animation:
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My notes:
Due to some IRL complications including school, & work, I ended up getting FAR less done than I anticipated I could fit in; and now I'm sorta paying the price. Oh well, reap what ya' sow, right?

Jesus christ Wolferian, You sure improved! And a lot! I didn't even recognize your animation for a while there. Great job bud! You sure put actual effort in this animation, so my opinion of you as an animator had already gone up a notch. You still have problems with some of the pacing and the physics, but you will eventually get there.

Sadly, my vote goes to Miles due to him just being better. Don't get discouraged though, you will probably get my vote next time :^)

I can finally achieve my big 100 (fuck you Neil). And what better way than to do it while being me and giving that good ass cnc haha.

Miles

• Your scenery is changing while leaving you behind, Jesus. Chill!
  
• I assume you were going for a comedic cut here but the calm, peaceful music continuing took away the intensity of it and it would've straight up been funnier if you had some hard ass metal song cut as it cuts back to the peaceful music.
  
• Honestly, the dialogue between the two was executed very well. I liked how they emote and moved around and wasn't a face swap with a looped alert sequence.
  
• Okay so I get what you were going for, but after the last cut with the fist clench. The shot went from tension building up too and uncomfortably long zoom of a still shot and just got boring when it went to 7 seconds.
  
• For all that went into the build-up of 1:10... The fight being a mediocre 12-second fight fails to meet the criteria of the theme.
  
• The camera isn't immersive at all. It's just a zoomed out horizontal pan. That last hit that sent Wolferian flying had a camera shake that was short and didn't hold on very well. I'd hit up Neil on that.
  
• The sound design is kind of bland. It's just the hard hits from Zack's pack with no whoosh, no deep bass enhancers, nothing. It's boring.
  
• Considering my first point, I'm gonna assume a frame was messed up in the timeline and got removed because the scenery changed once more.
  
• This final attack was nothing short of disappointing. Nothing on the wall to signify Wolferian is pushed against it. A weak sound. No immersive camera work. It felt like something mid combo just ended and you met the deadline and cut it short.
  

Aside from a timeline hic-up, your strengths lie in dialogue and comedic timing. You make them expressive and definitely have a knack for it. It all falls flat when it comes to combat - the sound design and camera work - something that should enhance your animation, was the bare minimum and just took away from it. The raw animation itself was boring with less than 10 exchanges in total. So it made it disappointing for me.

Wolferian

• Where'd the sound go? No impact here. Actually, let's build off on that. The sound design throughout was hollow, boring and at some points just straight up bad. Your hits sound empty with no semblance of impacts - in fact, that goes for all impacts with the rubble, statue crush at the end, etc.
  
• Your camera work is kind of like Miles in the sense that nothing much goes on. You move it around for a few frames whenever an impact happens. You zoom in and out whenever something happens. You see where I'm going with this? There's just filler in between the camera movements and just comes off as lazy. It just sticks until an event pushes it to do something else and when it does something - it's just a quick movement that just ends so the process repeats.
  
• The other dude appeared to just disappear with no context? Why'd he appear? What did he achieve? Using your second note of it being fast paced as an excuse doesn't cut it. This isn't fast-paced. It's random. You wanna make it so it's coherent for the viewer and if you're having someone else appear, don't have them just leave after 2 seconds of being introduced.
  
• Generally, when having enveloping on, you... uh. You don't want to hold it on this long. Doesn't look too pretty.
  
• This is just weird. Both characters endured a lot worse but a fall with a light sound somehow result into a pool of blood dripping from his head?
  
• I think you were going for that cool cliche of anime characters darting around here (I like to do it too haha) but the execution doesn't come off as that. It actually comes off as some weird exaggerated sidestep like this.
  
• I lightly mentioned this at the beginning but the final blow was weak. In animation, camera work, sound, and overall execution. You wanna shake and zoom out the camera, you wanna have a rocky debris explosion, you wanna have a lot of dust to emphasizes it, etc.
  

Overall it's weak. While Miles had the comedy holding it up, this was all combat (as you stated yourself) and the combat was weak. The raw animation was decent. I didn't think it was particularly outstanding or bad. It makes the cut. Everything around it brings it down. There's no impact in the animation, therefore, the camera and sounds also fail to capture it on top of those two things being boring. This wasn't fast-paced. It was incomprehensibly fast. You wanna make sure that in the future it's understandable to the viewer and not just the animator.

Miles you failed to meet the theme and giving me that berserk rage because it just ended and the combat wasn't executed well. While the intro was well-executed, it didn't relate to the theme at all and had its own shortcomings pulling it down. Wolferian, while you met the theme (kind of) - the execution didn't hold it up unfortunately. Hopefully, you both take my criticisms into account moving forward. So with all that being said, I think I'll hold off on my vote.

*wakes up* Another MBR! :3c

Miles, your storytelling along with the many, mini details you include are always enjoyable. Always!! I think you definitely had a great start to achieve the theme when the anger was building and the screen was getting redder. Would've loved to see your character go more ham compared to his usual, composed/cool attitude. I didn't notice any awfully glaring mistakes at first glance, except for the jump cut from the shot of you to Graceme training. I personally felt like the insert scene with Graceme training wasn't as necessary, and the time and effort to animate it could've been added more to the actual fight. Regardless, what is there of the entire animation was still fun to watch!

Wolf, I agree with what Sooth said, you really improved from your last animation! The main thing that stood out to me were some of the logic/decisions made by some of the characters. For example, at 0:14, your character runs past Miles and Miles is just still chilling. In my opinion, I thought it was a little awkward that Miles just let you run past him so you can kick him from behind. It was good you were trying to keep the continuity of having your character enter from the same side he exited (which you didn't really keep when your character was pushed to the right at 0:33 and landed from the top when we see him next OTL), but I think it could've been executed better, like your character could've dashed/ran super fast, catching him off guard. Also, what was the string thing that grabbed the statue that smushed Miles? .-. At least you finished your animation and it felt complete this time! c:

Keep it up, you two!

ight so for my sake i think miles was much more angrier at this point like so since miles respected the theme more than wolferian my vote gonna go for
some things i didn't like for Miles

"Pics"

why he's blood got bashed away??

i really can't say more you are better than me at animating.
Wolferian :

Wolferian yo OC looked like he was just neutral about and that's why you didn't respected the theme
also when miles walked with a rigged emote it was weird ( https://imgur.com/HZIYuUD that part )

so yeah vote goes to Miles i ain't got much to say since everybody said it all

Nice job with the MBR.
So first, I liked both entries I feel they were animated pretty well and good job on improvements Wolf.

As for my vote its going to Miles. Although the hype was real, it was abit of a flop towards the end.
What really takes the cake though is the story.

Comparing the parts and characters, I actually had some sympathy for Miles.
>Hardworking guy, just wants to enjoy his day off, puts his phone on silent, no ones gonna bother him


but on the other hand
>Guy gets hit with the Mop, %100 rage.
I know in your notes it says your character gets pissed when provoked but I don't know your character and the execution on berserk mode was a bit eh.

To me what made Miles slightly better was the fact that it was relateable and even if you didn't know his character you understood why he was going berserk.

Vote to Miles.

Wolferian, keep up the improvements and my best advice would be to add a little bit of a background story in future MBRS.
Mainly because that line between "I want action" and "I want story" tends to flip flop quite abit with people.

Congrats on your win, Miles.
Make sure you link your MBR profiles next time.